Common lies that Pattaya bar girls tell foreigners

October 9, 2018 - Reading time: 3 minutes

If you're involved with a bar girl working in Pattaya, lies are something you're going to encounter over and over again. With that in mind, we've compiled the 5 most common lies that bar girls in Pattaya tell foreign men...

1. "I don't have a boyfriend"

If you meet a bar girl in Pattaya and she tells you that she doesn't have a boyfriend, don't believe her. A lady working in a bar would never admit that she is already in a relationship. For many of these women their goal is to be in multiple relationships with foreign men at the same time. Don't believe us? Take a look at this video which explains the mentality of many ladies in this environment. As private investigators, we can easily find out if your girlfriend is claiming to be single while you're out of town!

2. "It's my first day/week/month in the bar"

Bar girls aren't stupid. They know what you want to hear and would never admit to working in the bar scene for many years. They will almost always lie and claim to be fresh on the scene, whether she says that it's her first week, her first month, or her second month in the bar. If she tells you that it's her first day in the bar, alarm bells should be ringing out very loudly.

3. "I don't go with customers"

This has to make our top five. "I never go with customers" is one of the most common lies you're going to hear when you start to become involved in a lady that's working at a bar in sin city. The truth is, bar girls meager wages are designed to be bolstered by leaving the bar with customers as much as possible. If you don't believe us, we can find out if she is prepared to leave the bar with customers by visiting the bar ourselves and sending you a detailed report explaining her behaviour. 

4. "I don't have children"

Bar girls will try to make themselves seem as appealing as possible to their customers, and they know that many men are not keen on a lady with one or two children. They will claim not to have any children. It's also very common for bar girls to claim that they have only one child, when they in fact have two or three. If you decide to visit her family, she might tell you the other children are her nieces or nephews. By the time you find out she actually has two or more, you're already in love with her and less likely to walk away.

5. "I'm pregnant!"

This is a very common lie and scenario that constantly gets played out in Pattaya. The condom ripped or bust, and now just a couple of weeks later you're getting a call telling you that you're going to be a father. Many guys are fooled by this, they will return back to Thailand and spend more time (and money) with the woman they think is carrying their child. Don't be fooled, this is a very common tactic used by bar girls in Thailand to force men into committing to them. 

We are experts at finding the truth for our clients and investigating Pattaya bar girls. We can find out very quickly if you're being fed lies. Our rates are highly competitive and we offer free quotes for all work. Get in touch with us today explaining your situation and we'll let you know how we can help.


How much money do bar girls earn in Pattaya?

July 28, 2018 - Reading time: 2 minutes

I was recently asked "How much money do bar girls earn in Pattaya?". The answer isn't as straightforward as you might think and their earnings can vary massively. First of all, different bars offer different salaries. A go-go dancers tend to earn more money than ladies working in beer bars, for example. Base salaries for ladies working in Thai bars tend to be around 8,000 — 13,000 THB per month, however this isn't the only way bar girls earn cash. They also earn money each time someone buys them a drink, each time someone pays a bar fine for them, and a share of the bar's pooled tips. 

A popular bar girl might average 10 drinks per night, at 50 baht per drink, that's an extra 500 THB per night, or 3,500 THB per week. If the lady is bar fined by 3 customers per week, this combined with her drinks could easily earn the lady 10,000 THB extra per week, paid on top of her wages. 

So how much does a bar girl earn? A popular, good looking girl has the potential to earn 30,000+ THB per month, and sometimes they're able to earn much, much more. Other bar girls that are older or less good looking, might rely more on their wages from the bar, only occasionally being bar fined or having drinks bought for them.

Why does this matter? Well, if you're involved with a Thai lady that's working in a bar, you might decide to take her out of the bar and ask her to find a job somewhere else. Often bar girls have children from previous relationships that they need to support with money, as well as sending money to support their parents and sometimes other extended family. If you get seriously involved with a Thai lady, you'll be responsible for supporting her and all of the people that rely on her.

I often tell people that the words "bar" and "brothel" mean the same exact thing, it's important to realize this. A bar girl's aim is to leave the bar with as many customers as possible.

If you're involved with a Thai lady that works at a bar in Pattaya, we can help you find the truth of your situation. We can find out how your girlfriend truly behaves when you're not around. Send us a message today explaining your situation and we will respond with a free, no obligation quote.


Thai girlfriend scams in Pattaya

May 12, 2018 - Reading time: 3 minutes

In Pattaya and other areas of Thailand there is no shortage of young, attractive Thai ladies. One thing is for sure, where there's beautiful Thai girls there are bound to be scams taking place. Not all Thai women are bad, in fact most of them are generally good people. Places such as Pattaya tend to attract ladies with a need for money. If you speak to ladies that are working in the Thai nightlife, you will find that many of them have children. Typically, their children will live in the care of their grandparents, with the mother usually having to support all of them herself. In Thailand, it's rare for the father of a child to support the child financially after breaking up with his child's mother. The minimum wage in Thailand is also very low (around 350 THB per day, or $11 USD), working in the nightlife scene and mixing with foreigners can allow Thai ladies to earn much more money per night, supporting themselves and their families.

Many Thai women meet foreign guys and get into relationships. Often the foreign man will need to support his girlfriend and her family with money, this is normal in Thai culture when you start to establish a serious relationship. However, if you are being lied to or scammed, your money could be better spent elsewhere. As leading private detectives, we can help save you money by exposing Thai ladies that lie and cheat.

Pattaya bar girl investigations

Bar girl scams in Pattaya Pattaya has no shortage of nightlife and there are thousands of bar girls living and working in the city. Often bar girls will claim that they're not being "bar fined", or leaving the bar with customers, but in fact they are. Often times bar girls will aim to have multiple boyfriends sending them money every month. Our job as private investigators is to expose the lies told by bar girls and bring our clients the truth. It can be much cheaper to hire us and discover the truth of a situation and we offer free quotes for all work undertaken. If you would like to learn more about bar girl scams, then read our bar girl investigations blog post.

The risks of internet dating in Thailand

Internet dating in Thailand Internet dating is very popular in Thailand. However, a hidden danger behind this is that many prostitutes use dating websites and popular dating apps. These women understand that by claiming to have a university education and an entry level job, they will make themselves seem much more attractive to foreigners. Often by the time a serious relationship has come about, a boyfriend will be too in love with his Thai girl to break off the relationship, even if he discovers that she has been lying all along. It's very common for Thai ladies to lie about where they work and their relationship status when they're trying to hook up with foreign men. If you'd like to learn more about this and how we can help you, please read our blog post about the risks of internet dating in Thailand.

If you're getting involved with a lady that lives in Pattaya, it's important that you do your own due diligence and check her out.

As leading private investigators in Thailand we are able to supply our customers with cellphones pre-installed with monitoring software, which allow you to record all messages sent/recieved, GPS locations, and can be monitored from anywhere in the world. These cellphones can be sent to any address in Thailand. We can also investigate people using more traditional methods. For personal surveillance we charge just 1,000 THB per hour. We can also setup "sting" operations on suspected cheaters in Pattaya. Send us a message today with the details of your case and we'll respond back to you with a free quote.

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Do you need a bar girl detective in Pattaya?

May 3, 2018 - Reading time: 2 minutes

Pattaya bar girl investigations

If there is one thing Pattaya has no shortage of, it’s nightlife. The city is filled with thousands of different beer bars, bar complexes, a gogo bars, clubs and discos. Thousands of foreign men visit Thailand each year and meet Thai ladies working in the adult entertainment industry. Many of these men will go on to marry their Thai partners and even have children together further into their relationships.

However, there is a more sinister side to relationships with bar girls in Thailand. Often these women are from poor families in the north of Thailand and struggle to earn enough money to support themselves. The minimum wage in Thailand is very low, at only around US $11 per day. Thai ladies often look to their partners for financial support, this is typical if the lady is in a relationship with a foreign guy or even a Thai man… Once in a committed relationship the man is expected to help out with money for the lady and her family in Thai culture.

Sadly, many bar girls in Pattaya take advantage of this and try to have multiple boyfriends sending them money at the same time. Often, they will continue to sleep with other men while already in relationships, with the goal of earning (or being given) more money. This is a real problem for men looking to get involved with ladies that work or have previously worked in Pattaya nightlife. As a detective agency based in the city, we have helped countless men discover the truth about their Thai girlfriends. We will take the time to listen to your situation and offer advice on the best way we can help deliver you the truth.

If a Thai lady is working at a beer bar, an agogo bar, or if she regularly visits freelancing spots such as Lucifer or Insomnia, it’s very easy for us to help you by discovering if the lady is open to engaging in more relationships with other guys.

Questions we can answer include:

  • Is she still working in the bar?
  • Can we "bar fine" her?
  • Is she where she says she is?
  • Is she leaving the bar with customers?

After hiring us, there will be no need to worry about what your girlfriend is doing while you’re out of the country. We can deliver you truth professionally and discreetly. Simply send us a message explaining your situation and we will be glad to send you a free quote.


10 warning signs to look for in your Thai girlfriend or wife

March 3, 2018 - Reading time: 5 minutes

Thousands of foreign guys visit Thailand each year and form romantic relationships with Thai women. If you're one of them, you should be aware of signs and things to look for in your Asian spouse. Thai culture is very different to countries in the west, so we've compiled these top 10 warning signs we think are a good starting point.

  1. She constantly talks about money or asks you for money A good Thai woman would never request money from a man she is just starting a relationship with; this is not an appropriate sign when you are still getting to know each other and should act as a red flag. Common excuses for money can include: her parent’s buffalo is sick, she needs money for her family's medical bills, home improvement, or even just help paying for rent and food... Many Thai women that have been involved with the sex industry are especially good liars and know how to get money from foreign men!

  2. She spends a lot of time in bars Alcohol is tolerated in Thai society and culture, but responsibly so. Most people in Thailand wouldn't consider spending night after night sat on a bar stool getting wasted. If you're looking for a party animal and someone to have a casual time with, this could suit you. But if you're looking for a serious, stable relationship, maybe this isn't the person for you. Also see our blog post about bar girl investigations.

  3. She has tattoos While this point in itself doesn't automatically make someone a bad person, tattoos on women are very much frowned on in Thai society. Tattooed women have become synonymous with the sex industry in Thailand with bar girls and go-go dancers frequently sporting ink. Outside of the night life and in normal society, women with tattoos carry a stigma and this should raise another red flag against your Thai partner. See our blog post about Thai women with tattoos.

  4. She smokes cigarettes Good women that haven't been involved in the sex industry night life don't tend to use tobacco in Thailand. Smoking cigarettes is very common with ladies working in shady beer bars and can be a sign of a troublesome past.

  5. She wears a huge amount of gold Gold is worn in Thailand and used as an investment as it can easily be pawned or sold when falling on hard times. However, it should be worn tastefully with no more than a couple of items, for example one necklace and 2 rings. If someone is wearing multiple thick gold chains worth thousands of dollars, they are seen as flaunting their wealth and showing off. This isn't an attractive trait and could be a sign they are used to a very expensive lifestyle.

  6. Her English is very good but she never attended university Public schools in Thailand do not tend to teach a high level of English at all. If you're dating someone that speaks English but never attended university or English classes, this could be a sign that they've learned the English they speak by hanging out with foreigners in bars and other seedy places.

  7. She swears a lot A good, respectable Thai woman would not use English swear words when speaking to their boyfriend or anyone else. You might find it amusing if your darling swears like a drunken sailor, but this is definitely not a good thing and highly taboo in Thai culture.

  8. She says that all Thai men are "no good" With every group of people in the world there are good and bad, and Thai men are no exception. While there may be cases of domestic violence or abuse in Thailand, it's not true that all Thai men are bad. Thai men typically respect their girlfriends or wives in the same way that you would expect with a Western relationship. If a woman tells you that "all Thai men are no good" maybe that's a sign that Thai men just don't like her, and maybe there is a reason for that.

  9. She is constantly on the phone texting while spending time with you It is never a good trait if your girlfriend or the lady you're dating is constantly using her phone and texting while you're together. This type of behavior is disrespectful and shows that you’re not deserving of her full attention. You should become extremely suspicious if she hides her phone screen from you or walks away from you to secretly speak with people in English in the toilet or somewhere else... No matter the excuses, these are huge red flags that the woman could actively be in a relationship with another man.

  10. She is involved with, or tolerates the use of illegal drugs This by far the most serious warning sign to look for in your prospective partner in Thailand. Drug use and drug dealing is extremely taboo in the kingdom. There are 35 crimes that can earn you a death sentence in Thailand with drug trafficking being on that list. If you encounter anyone involved with illegal drugs in Thailand the best thing to do is walk away.

Internet dating in Thailand

10.5: You met her through an app or internet dating site. If this applies to you then read our blog post about the dangers of internet dating in Thailand.

Are you being lied to by a Thai woman? We can help and have investigated countless ladies in Thailand. We can expose cheaters and their lies. Our prices are very competitive, for personal survellience we charge just 1,000 THB per hour. We also offer more high tech investigations such as cellphone monitoring software and GPS tracking devices. If you're having doubts about your girlfriend in Thailand, Send us a message today for a free quote and see how we can help you.

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Thai bar girl as your girlfriend, can it work?

May 31, 2017 - Reading time: 3 minutes

A lot of talk happens online in the expat community surrounding bar girls, go-go dancers, and other so called ladies of the night. Many people recommend avoiding Thai bar girls for any type of serious long term relationship. On the other hand thousands of tourists visit Thailand, become involved with bar girls, and end up getting married, having children, and leading happy lives together... To understand this issue, you really need to look into the cause of prostitution in Thailand. Why is she working in the bar? Often times ladies in Thailand are pushed into bar work by economic pressure. The minimum wage in Thailand is 300 baht per day, that's around $8 US dollars for 8 hours work.... $1 per hour.

It is possible to live in Thailand, and survive on the Thai minimum wage, but it is not easy. Traditionally in Thai culture, the son of the family will support his mother and father until he has his own family. When he has his own wife and children, then his priorities shift and he's no longer expected to provide for mom and dad. With a Thai daughter, she will usually carry the burden of supporting her family forever. This means she is not only feeding herself, but her mother and father. Most bar girls in Thailand have children and they usually deny it. "You have children?" "No, no!". They get used to saying that, because they don't believe having children is an attractive trait to potential customers or boyfriends.

Once a Thai lady has a child, she will find it very difficult to be in a meaningful relationship with a Thai man. Thai men typically are not interested in marrying women with kids. It may be cheaper to live in Thailand, but the cost of putting a child (or multiple kids) through school, the cost of feeding your mother and father, running their house in Isaan, and feeding yourself, adds up. For a lot of these women, with very minimum educations, bar work can be seen as a viable choice to solve their money troubles.

Generally speaking there are two types of bar girl. You have one lady that will stop working in the bar if given the opportunity. You take the financial burden from her and send her money (she will describe this as "taking care" of her), she stops working in the bar and maintains your relationship. A lot of women start working in bars so they can find a foreign husband, and they are sincere. You then have the other type of bar girl. She is not seriously interested in you, but she will never say that. She will seem very keen on you and make you think you're the love of her life! But you're not. Through her eyes you are just an ATM machine. Her goal is to have multiple boyfriends sending her money, while continuing to make money every night in the bar. There will be no $8 per day wage for this lady, she can make thousands per month, especially if she's young and good looking.

At PattayaPI, we understand these issues, and we believe you have a choice. If you have picked a bad bar girl, you have picked a professional liar. This type of woman gets paid to lie, and they're good, they're very good. She will never ever admit that she's seeing other guys, or has multiple boyfriends. How can you find the truth? Before you let this relationship run on for years, and send this lady thousands of dollars, let us help you discover her motives. In the long run paying a private investigator will save you a lot of money and heartache. On the other hand our customers love the peace of mind they get from knowing their girlfriend is loyal to them.

If she's lying to you, we will find out. If she's not, you can go forward knowing you've picked a trustworthy partner, and she will never know she has been investigated. Send us a message now for a free quote.

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